Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Wiccans - part 2 |
Tue 11/04/08 02:08 PM |
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Please list Gods ABSOLUTE laws... |
Tue 11/04/08 01:26 PM |
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Pretty sure his law of gravity is one you're not getting around.
That is not an absolute law at all. It only exists within a three dimensional spacetime matrix and only under certain conditions.
I think an absolute law would have to exist everywhere.
Existence is the only absolute law.
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Thousands of UFO's sightings.. tonight on Discovery channel |
Tue 11/04/08 01:20 PM |
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WWII Ended in 1945.
The first flying saucer was sighted in 1947.
The US captured two German anti-gravity experiments during / immediately after WWII. According to eye-witnesses, both experiments were successful. One was saucer shaped and one was bell shaped.
I watched a documentary on it last night. There is ample evidence that the US started testing WWII designed anti-gravity aircraft of German design and created the story of UFOs and aliens to cover up their top secret tests.[/quotoe]
Eventually, we will all know the truth, until then, I'm not losing any sleep.
I believe these paticular UFO's mentioned in this program (which I recorded) were seen during world war II by the men flying bombing missions. They were called (nicknamed) "Foo fighters."
What disturbs me most is Project Paper Clip. Thousands of Nazi's went to work for our country and the CIA. This includes ghoulish doctors who did torturous experiments on human beings.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/operationpaperclip.htm
Project Paperclip (started in 1945) was stopped in 1957, when West Germany protested to the U.S. that these efforts had stripped it of "scientific skills." There was no comment about supporting Nazis.
Paperclip may have ended in 1957, but as you can see from Licio Gelli and his international dealings with the CIA in Italy/P2, and Heinrich Rupp with his involvement in October Surprise, the ramifications of Paperclip are world-wide.
The Nazis became employed CIA agents, engaging in clandestine work with the likes of George Bush, the CIA, Henry Kissinger, and the Masonic P2 lodge. This is but one of the results of Operation Paperclip. Another umbrella project that was spawned from Paperclip was MK-ULTRA.
The Bush connection to Hitler:
In October 1942, ten months after entering World War II, America was preparing its first assault against Nazi military forces. Prescott Bush was managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman. His 18-year-old son George, the future U.S. President, had just begun training to become a naval pilot. On Oct. 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City which were being conducted by Prescott Bush.
Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over the Union Banking Corporation, in which Prescott Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares, all of which were owned by Prescott Bush, E. Roland `` Bunny '' Harriman, three Nazi executives, and two other associates of Bush.
By Oct. 26, 1942, U.S. troops were under way for North Africa. On Oct. 28, the government issued orders seizing two Nazi front organizations run by the Bush-Harriman bank: the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation.
( http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm )
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Please list Gods ABSOLUTE laws... |
Tue 11/04/08 09:14 AM |
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Which God???
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If you can actually prove such a thing as an absolute law of god... 
The proof is you exist.
The law is you exist.
There is no "which God."
There is only one.
You are the one.
You exist.
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Wiccans - part 2 |
Tue 11/04/08 06:30 AM |
QUOTE: But I think vegan is ultimately more healthy actually. I don't do it yet, but I may start heading in that direction. My sister is a vegan. She was a vegetarian for most of her life, but now she has become a complete vegan, she won't even eat cheese, dairy products, or eggs. Of course she gave up the eggs a long time ago. But giving up cheese was hard for her.
I tried to go vegan for a few months but it was hard to find food. We only have one grocery store here and the produce department sucked.
So I ended eating too many carbs (sweets and breads) and that is not good for my physical make up. I got stiff and slow and felt like I was 70 years old. I could not loose weight.
Then one day I smelled a hamburger cooking and I knew what I had to have. I was starving for meat.
So I did the Atkins diet for three months and lost 30 pounds but I could not stay on that either. My body craved grains and bread.
I think the best way to eat is a little bit of everything you crave. But for me I have to stay away from too much sugar and carbs or I will not loose a pound.
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Philosophy and Science and why we cant . . . |
Tue 11/04/08 12:40 AM |
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A special person i met here directed me to a book
That is tittled Against happeness. In praise of melancholy. Being neither happy nor sad.
I call it yellow alert, being on the alert for trouble makes you aware of many things you wouldnt have picked up on. Like, when you are looking for the thorns, you get to smell the roses.
That sounds depressing. 
Actually I do understand.
But I always feel that underlying divine JOY.
JOY!  |
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Enough already, I'm sick of this election.. |
Tue 11/04/08 12:36 AM |
Turning my ringer off is not an option because I am by the phone at all the times because I take care of my elderly parents ~~who call me when they need me, ~~which is a lot because my father needs assistance in getting around.
But its about over... I think. Hopefully the calls will stop now that election day is here. |
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Jeanniebean
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Philosophy and Science and why we cant . . . |
Tue 11/04/08 12:30 AM |
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QUOTE: Now, what is it that transforms “sensory input” into “knowledge”?
In my humblest of opinions...
That transformation capability is contained within one's own personal sense of ought and/or perceptual faculty. The personal agreements within each of us determine whether a new piece of information is worthy of further contemplation... or not.
Inference and extrapolation(s) from previously accepted knowledge continually grows the personal tree of knowledge, which may or may not be an accurate representation of truth and/or fact. The unconscious also weighs heavily on one's own personal perceptual capabilities.
Creative,
How would you define this thing you call "personal sense of ought?"
And also, what is a "personal agreement within us?"
Are we agreeing "within" ourselves or with someone else?
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Wiccans - part 2 |
Tue 11/04/08 12:27 AM |
I have come across a few pagan/wiccan types who do sometimes judge others for not "taking care of mother earth" or for "eating the flesh of animals" and other things.
I have a friend who is a Vegan and don't tell me that's not a religion. Boy do they preach and fuss about people who do not have the same values as they do.
Hey I think if you want to be a Vegan that's fine with me, but I don't think you should make a religion out of it and judge people who eat meat as horrible monsters who kill god's creatures.
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Thousands of UFO's sightings.. tonight on Discovery channel |
Tue 11/04/08 12:18 AM |
Well the information asks us to believe that Humans (The Nazi's ~ and now us) have this advanced technology and are keeping it all very secret and underground and that they have advanced weapons and flying machines that disappear, hide from radar, and travel at impossible speeds.
Huh? Why hide it? What are they really hiding?
I will tell you. They are hiding the aliens. Period.
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Thousands of UFO's sightings.. tonight on Discovery channel |
Tue 11/04/08 12:02 AM |
Well I watched the show on UFO's but there was no "new" information there.
The most shocking piece of information was not about UFO's at all, but about "Operation Paper Clip" where literally "thousands" of Nazi scientists were smuggled out of Germany and given new identities and jobs in America.
Hans Kamler was the name of the guy who was supposed to be in charge of the technology.
Of course "Operation Paper Clip" is not really news to me or a big secret but its just not well known or often spoken about by your average American citizen who fought in world war II.
Many people who support George Bush (and the Bush family) don't realize that Prescott Bush was involved with helping to fund Hitler in the early stages.
Now you hear them admit in this show that "thousands" of top German Nazi scientists (and doctors) were given jobs and new identities in America in this SECRET OPERATION.
(And people seem outraged when Bush is compared to Hitler.)
Duh!
You also know that thousands of German soldiers were mistreated and allowed to die in our own concentration camps even after the war under Eisenhower. True accounts of this can be found in our own newspaper records.
Now in light of this information, other information I have read about the escape of top Nazi leaders (including Hitler himself) ~to south America does not seem so difficult to believe. This show talks about the tracing of top Nazi scientists to South America too, and the increased sightings of UFO's in South America.
It is obvious that someone was manipulating both sides of this conflict we call world war II.
But the idea that Germany had this kind of (UFO) technology is absurd. If they had, they would have won the war hands down....unless they all just turned traitor to their own country suddenly for some reason.
Operation Paper Clip assures us that the top Nazi's were given safe passage out of Germany and the war.
This show states that these Nazi "scientists" were "good Germans" and that they became "good Americans."
Oh Really?
How many "good German soldiers" and "good American soldiers" fought and died in that war only for it to end with a secret joining of forces between Nazi's and our own American government.
That is outrageous! Who do they think they are kidding? Some faction in our own Government (The Bush Family included) were involved with Germany from the very beginning, and in the end of the war, they rescued and gave safe haven to the top people in the Nazi party.
Sounds very fishy to me.
So this show is trying to imply that UFO's originate from Germany. This is a bunch of crap.
UFO's have been seen long before world war II.
Deals were made with aliens as to who would be getting the technology, and who would win the war, and scientists were spared and given new identities and relocated to America.
This last part they freely admitted.
Why would they do that? The Nazi's were supposed to be our enemy. Now we adopt their top people? Including heir ghoulish doctors who did inhumane experiments on prisoners?
And they are so sure nobody cares and nobody can do anything about it anyway, they just put the information out there for anyone to find.
This also makes sense with the information David Icke had about how Hitler was under the control of the reptilians.
He also has the Bush family influenced by the reptilians. Well it seems like they were inciting war for the spoils of war like they always do.
Reptilians or not, the Bush family and Hitler seem to have been connected. Not surprising, the Bush family and the Ben Laden family were business partners too.
Anyway, if you believe this show, then you are supposed to believe that all this stuff about aliens and UFO's is just disinformation put out by the CIA, and that we really got our UFO's from Germany.
Yeh right. If the CIA is doing fake abductions, mind control, cattle mutilations, and all that stuff they need to be taken out of business. They should not be believed or supported by this country.
The more they try to cover things up the more they reveal about themselves.
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Jeanniebean
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Wiccans - part 2 |
Mon 11/03/08 06:27 PM |
I love the Internet. It represents my library, and my super market and my social life. When I first moved to Springfield, I was devastated because the library here was for kids, I could not find any like minded witches, and shopping was awful.
The Internet has everything. Shopping, information, friends, communities, games, news, ... I Love it!
If I were to worship an Idol, it would be the Internet.
Thank God and the Universal mind for the Internet.
Amen!
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Thousands of UFO's sightings.. tonight on Discovery channel |
Mon 11/03/08 06:22 PM |
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There is a program on tonight on the Discovery Channel about the tens of thousands of UFO sightings that have been reported.
They are saying 9:00p.m. but with time zones I don't know when you might see it.
Not a believer in Aliens? Watch tonight!
They are here!!
all I see is the "Nazi Ufo Conspiracy" is that the program you are referring to
I think that is the one. I can't recommend it cause I've never seen it. It could turn out to be a bunch of crap.
When UFO's started showing up a lot during world war II our side thought the Nazi's had some sort of secret craft, and they thought we did.
The rumors in the UFO community are that the Aliens wanted to make a deal with one of the powerful countries in the world and if that country would cooperate with them, they would help that country win the war against the other one, and become the most powerful country on the earth.
If I remember right, one of the first UFO crashes was in Russia. The show will probably go over some of that historical stuff.
Anyway a lot of UFO's were seen during world war II.
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Wiccans - part 2 |
Mon 11/03/08 05:30 PM |
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a strange birthmark, living alone, mental illness,??
I'm doomed if that kind of witch hunt resumes. 
Okay....worst case scenario we can move into together, use makeup on the birthmarks and I'll vouch for your sanity if you'll vouch for mine. 
They would think we were a coven. |
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Enough already, I'm sick of this election.. |
Mon 11/03/08 05:28 PM |
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Phone calls all day long, ads on every channel, dear god I will be glad with this election is over!
I avoid most of it on Television, I don't watch debate or listen to new... But damn!
They are calling me six times a day.
Enough already!!
Looks to me like you could evoke the "Do Not Call" status...then turn them in, and file charges for the violation, they do it again  .
I did that about a year ago but I think you have to renew that status once a year, I'm not sure.
Also, even with that "do not call status," you can still be called by non-profits seeking donations.
Most of them are just recordings so I just hang up. Barack Obama has real live people calling for him. I got at least two of those.
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Wiccans - part 2 |
Mon 11/03/08 05:23 PM |
a strange birthmark, living alone, mental illness,??
I'm doomed if that kind of witch hunt resumes. |
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Jeanniebean
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| Topic: Wiccans - part 2 |
Mon 11/03/08 05:20 PM |
cultivation of medicinal herbs, ????
Sounds like the FDA's secret service ... |
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