MorningSong
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MorningSong
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| Topic: Stupidity and Religion |
Tue 11/04/08 02:00 PM |
Jasmine wrote:
<<<<<.....To think "just because some thing has always been thought to be true, does it make it true?" ....>>>>
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Jasmine.....
Just to THINK it?
No.
That does Not make it true for you.
YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE TRUTH FOR YOURSELF !!!!
KNOW!!!!
And KNOWING .......
TRULY KNOWING....
COMES
FROM
THE
HEART....
not the thinker(mind).
KNOW the TRUTH
and
the
TRUTH
SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!
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MorningSong
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| Topic: Stupidity and Religion |
Tue 11/04/08 01:37 PM |
QUOTE:
QUOTE:
True Christianity is not about brainwashing....
but about accepting and beleiving on the Lord Jesus Christ....by Faith.
And that decision must be made WILLINGLY.........and MUST come from the HEART....ONLY...
in order to be truly born again...
NOT from the Head.
If someone makes a decision to follow Christ ....
but makes the decision because someone else is telling him/her to.....then that decison only comes from the head...and NOT from the HEART.. ..and all that person will have found is DEAD RELIGION...disguised as Chrsitianity... and nothing else!!!
And that person will either probably eventually get bored and leave ...cause there was no heart change....made willingly from the heart....
or ....
that person will stay stuck in dead religiousity...thinking that is what christianity is all about.
But there will be no fruits evident in that person't life..casue nothing has changed.
Just dead religiosity flowing from his/her life.
And satan loves to see this happen to people.....and laughs....
but let him laugh...
cause
God is still on the throne...
and
the VICTORY has already been WON...
by what
JESUS did on that cross...
and
the devil has already lost....
he just doesn't know it yet.
One of my sisters went though a Born-Again-Christian phase when I was 18. She had a Pastor come to our house to do the deal. He asked me if I was ready to accept... yada, yada, yada. I wanted to be... really. I actually sat down to join my sister in support. As the Pastor spoke, I realized that it didn't feel real to me. As hard as it was to stop him in the middle of his passion-filled speaking, I had to.
It MUST be in my heart in order for me to embrace it.
The Pastor was very appreciative when I explained that it didn't feel real to me and that I needed to respectfully decline.
And That's the way it should be done...
allowing one to make a decision on their own....
and understanding when one is not ready to....
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MorningSong
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| Topic: Stupidity and Religion |
Tue 11/04/08 01:22 PM |
QUOTE:
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Im not feeling really inspired today so I stole this from another thread.
"The men of Israel wandered around the desert for 40 years...
even in biblical times, they wouldn't ask for directions."
 
ATTITUDE!!!!!!!
NOT the ENEMY..is WHY they wandered around in a WILDERNESS FOR 40 YEARS!!!!!!!!
And the same is still happening with some today.
They murmured, grumbled, complained, and were UNGRATEFUL.
And therefore NEVER reached the Promise Land.
Their ATTITUDE kept them....
from reaching what God already PROMISED...and was WILLING to give to them.
Sound Familiar ...even today?
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MorningSong
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| Topic: Stupidity and Religion |
Tue 11/04/08 01:08 PM |
True Christianity is not about brainwashing....
but about accepting and beleiving on the Lord Jesus Christ....
by FAITH!!!!
And that decision must be made WILLINGLY.........
and MUST come from the HEART....ONLY...
in order to be truly Born Again...
NOT from the Head!!!
If someone makes a decision to follow Christ ....
but makes the decision because someone else is telling him/her to.....
then
that decison only comes from the head...
and NOT from the HEART.. ..
and all that person will ever have found is DEAD RELIGION...
disguised as Christianity... and nothing else!!!
And that person will either probably eventually get bored
and leave ...
(cause there was no REAL heart change....made WILLINGLY from the heart)....
or ....
that person will stay stuck
in dead religiousity...
thinking that is what christianity is all about.
And there will be no fruits evident in that person't life..cause nothing has changed in that person's life.
Just dead religiosity flowing from his/her life.
Nothing more....
And satan loves to see this happening to people.....and laughs....
but let him laugh...
cause
God is still on the throne...
and
the VICTORY has already been WON...
by what
JESUS already did on that cross...
and
the devil has already lost....
but
he just doesn't know it yet.
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MorningSong
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| Topic: Stupidity and Religion |
Tue 11/04/08 12:53 PM |
God WANTS us to Question.
And To Seek and Find!!!!
God does NOT want us to just follow blindly ....
simply because someone told us to follow
(that's religion for you.... not relationship).
God ONLY wants us to follow Him.....ONLY IF WE BELIEVE!!!!
BUT...
GETTING TO THE POINT OF BELIEVING , COMES FROM
HEARING
AND HEARING
BY THE WORD OF GOD!!!!
Once more ...
GOD WANTS RELATIONSHIP...
NOT RELIGION....
with His people He Created.
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MorningSong
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| Topic: KINGDOM AUTHORITY .... (part 2) |
Tue 11/04/08 03:37 AM |
...... Kingdom Authority........
( The Missing Miracle )
The Christian faith is a supernatural faith built around three personal miracles.
Our faith commences with a miracle. We come into the kingdom by a miraculous new birth (John 3:3).
Our salvation concludes with a miracle.
At our Lord’s coming we will be made like Him (I John 3:2).
What a transformation!
But there is the continuing middle miracle that many seem to miss.
That miracle is that we might reign in life right now with Kingdom Authority.
Christians are not just nicer people. They are new creatures with spiritual royalty.
But what kind of a king can reign without authority?
None!
In the same way, we cannot reign in the grace and power of our Lord without Kingdom Authority.
The life that God desires for us is to be one of divine Kingdom Authority. While the Bible admits the possibility of defeat for a Christian,
it never assumes the necessity of it.
We are already kings and priests meant to live in perpetual victory - not necessarily ease, wealth, or health but victory.
Kingdom Authority, is not only for the “sweet by and by” but for the believer today.
It is your birthright and legacy.
Satan will marshal all of the forces of hell and the demons of darkness to keep you in ignorance concerning your Kingdom Authority.
Satan wants to deceive you into thinking that victory is impossible – even if you are swimming in an ocean of potential blessing!
A friend shared the following experiment he had seen in a film:
A large wall-eyed pike was taken alive and placed in a huge aquarium.
The water temperature and surroundings were fashioned like the lake from which he was taken.
Then, buckets of live minnows were dumped in.
Mr. Pike thought he was in heaven. He began rapidly swallowing these minnows.
A short while later, the researchers played a trick on the poor fish.
They placed a large glass cylinder of water into the tank, then filled it with minnows.
Mr. Pike started for the minnows only to bump his snout against the invisible barrier.
He tried again and again and again. Finally he gave up and settled on the bottom of his “heaven” that had gone awry.
The researchers then removed the cylinder and the minnows swam freely. However,
Mr. Pike never made a move for one of them.
They would swim right past his face, but he never moved.
He was convinced that he would never have another minnow.
In the end, he starved surrounded by minnows.
Have you ever thought that you may be asking God for what you already have?
It is time that you open your eyes and possess your possessions.
Are you saved?
Have you repented of your sin, believed upon Jesus Christ to save you,
and made Him Lord over your life?
Then,
you are a member of the royal family of God with Kingdom Authority!
Simon Peter tells us that,
“According as His divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness,
through the knowledge of Him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises:
that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature,
having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.” (2 Peter 1:3-4).
One of these days,
we’re going to wake up and understand what God has already given His children and stop asking Him for what He has already given and therefore we already have.
Living victoriously isn’t your responsibility;
it is rather your response to God’s ability.
We are conquerors through Christ.
Romans 8:35-37 says,
“Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?
shall tribulation,
or distress,
or persecution,
or famine,
or nakedness,
or peril,
or sword?
As it is written,
For Thy sake we are killed all the day long;
we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us” (italics mine).
The key in this passage is the word “through.”
How do we have Kingdom Authority? Through Christ.
Behind every promise is a Person.
And His name is Jesus.
Walk on conquered ground, my friend. Stake your claim of faith on the promises of God.
And do as Winston Churchill once said,
“Never, never, never give up.”
Copyrighted material written by Adrian Rogers
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MorningSong
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| Topic: KINGDOM AUTHORITY ...( part 1 ) |
Tue 11/04/08 03:20 AM |
I will be sharing some articles from time to time... solely for the purpose of Edifying and Uplifting others.
May the articles Bless and Encourage Now ...
..... Kingdom Authority......
( Getting An Upper Hand On The Underworld )
We are born to win, not born to lose !!!
This is life-changing, liberating truth....
so why don’t we experience victory all the time?
Circumstances arise that discourage. People say things that cause us to feel defeated.
We find ourselves fighting a losing battle against unholy desires.
Why are we fighting a battle already lost when we could enjoy a victory already won?
Consider the following:
Satan’s Underworld
There is a ruthless, cruel underworld system that wars against our welfare, happiness, and joy.
The Mafia and crime bosses of this world are but amateurs compared to this syndicate, ruled by the Prince of Darkness and the Master of Deception who wears many disguises and has many aliases.
“And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light” (2 Corinthians 11:14).
No matter what face he wears, Satan has but one overmastering ambition, one burning desire – to dethrone the Almighty and to place himself upon the highest throne of the universe.
You see, at one time the devil served in Heaven as a mighty angel, but he rebelled against God (see Isaiah 14). And when he fell, a third of the angels fell with him and became disembodied spirits.
We call them demons today.
The Devil is now the lord of these fallen angels.
And together they form a demonized, organized, and mobilized power of satanic wickedness.
Paul reminds us, “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places” (Ephesians 6:12).
Be warned! From Satan’s viewpoint you are but a pawn in his game of cosmic chess.
Plans have already been made in Satan’s underworld to sabotage you, your loved ones, and your family.
How does he plan to gain the upper hand over you?
He uses two chief weapons – the world and the flesh.
Together, with his orchestration, they make up a trinity of evil - the world, the flesh, and the devil.
They are interactive forces in a three-pronged attack.
It Is Time For Some Good News!
The Good News is that every believer has glorious Kingdom Authority!!!
First Peter 5:8-10 promises God will make us strong, firm and steadfast against the ploys of Satan:
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil,
as a roaring lion,
walketh about,
seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith,
knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
But the God of all grace,
who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus,
after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
You can detect Satan’s schemes and overcome his world system.
You can live with victory over the desires of your flesh.
Habits, attitudes, unclean desires, worries,
and dissipation must yield as you exercise authority over your mind, emotions, and will.
You can actually put Satan and his demons to flight.
You don’t have be afraid of him - he will be afraid of you!
Sometimes a Christian may boast, “I am not afraid of the devil.”
Well, that is all well and good and Jesus has taught us that we are not to be terrified of our adversaries.
The truth of the matter, however,
is that if you understand Kingdom Authority, the devil ought to be afraid of you!
Remember that we are in a war,
and it is a fight to the finish. There can be no truce and no neutrality.
Through the conquest of Calvary we are already in the place of victory.
“But thanks be to God which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Corinthians 15:57).
While Satan has been defeated and rendered ultimately powerless against the Spirit‑filled believer,
he has not yet surrendered.
And he will not give up without a fight.
He is going to press on to do whatever damage he can through deception, threats, and intimidation.
And this is a part of the plan of God.
God’s plan for us is not immunity from struggle but victory through struggle.
In this victory we must appropriate what God has already established.
Satan may bluff but you need not be afraid.
You need to keep your eyes focused and appropriate that which is already yours in Jesus Christ!
And that which you have is Kingdom Authority!
copyrighted material written by Adrian Rogers .
LWF.org
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MorningSong
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| Topic: Whitebutterfly1 |
Tue 11/04/08 02:59 AM |
White Butterfly...what a Beautiful Blessing You Are !!
And I Can See You are a Chrisitian Woman Sold out for the Lord!!!
So Wonderful to See!!!
Be Blessed , WhiteButterfly, and Welcome to the Forum.
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MorningSong
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| Topic: god may be aware... but not eternal |
Tue 11/04/08 02:53 AM |
Funches wrote:
".....eternal is said to be that which has no beginning or end and void of time ...."
God is Eternal...God is the beginning and the end.....the Alpha and the Omega..the Everlasting Father....God Almighty..ever was and evermore shall be...
God is I AM.....
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MorningSong
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MorningSong
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| Topic: Hope |
Sat 11/01/08 01:03 AM |
QUOTE:
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Who says I have religion in it.....It's Christ...that's it.....
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disclaimer - just my opinion
- believe in what facts you find/found out to be true; not in a political party; focus on issues/remedies; realize that whoever wins won the problem not that they are the solution.
- don't lose focus on the issues
- don't allow yourselves to be led - take command
- agree to disagree respectfully; your (generalization) way is not the only way nor is it the right way for everyone - that doesnt exist
- to throw religion in the mix begets the following:
A - vex the believers
B - vex the non believers
in the end nothing is solved.
again just my opinion 
see that's my point - take what you want, whats convenient and disregard the rest - these are not guidelines but my opinion. Notice never mentioned nor gave my opinion on religion, now did I?
Feral wrote:
Well yes you actually did......to vex a believer or a non believer is you opinion. But for me to NOT have my Lord in EVERY ASPECT of my life would be a vex.
every
aspect?
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MorningSong
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| Topic: Demon - aliens are the same |
Thu 10/30/08 01:35 AM |
planets and stars
perfectly suspended in space.....
earth rotating and revolving
perfectly in place...
(.... but not so with any objects lost in space,
because of no gravity, they simply float around....)
hmmmmmmmm....
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MorningSong
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| Topic: Demon - aliens are the same |
Thu 10/30/08 12:29 AM |
Isn't it amazing?
Our planet
plus all planets and stars
held up
and
perfectly suspended in space
by none other
than
Almighty God.
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MorningSong
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| Topic: The Religion Forum CoffeeShop |
Thu 10/30/08 12:16 AM |
QUOTE:
((( Britty )))
((( Feral )))
((( MorningSong )))
Mendy2
RainbowTrout 
Just stopping by to say Hi, may not be on here much for a couple weeks, have a trip to the East Coast coming up in a few days.
Peace, Happiness and Gods Blessings for all of you
Thank You Sharpshooter .
Hey Sharpshooter .....
heard you got Married!!!
Congradulations !!!!!!!
May God Bless Both You and Your Very Special Lady in a Mighty Way... Always!!!
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MorningSong
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| Topic: doesn't "Jesus is God" goes against God's law |
Wed 10/29/08 04:42 PM |
Funches...glad I am still here and saw this...
Funches...just like a baby born in the natural , cannot suddenly become UNBORN ....
the same with becoming BORN AGAIN in the spirit....
man who is TRULY born again in the spirit ... cannot sudenly become UNBORN!!!
NOT if he is TRULY born of God.
Funches....can a baby choose to become UNBORN?
No!!!
Same with becoming born of the spirit!!
Man .....once he is born again cannot CHOOSE to become UNBORN, because he had nothing to do with becoming born again in the first place....GOD DID IT!!!!
But....yes........
man has to Make a DECISION first...
from the HEART.....
to WILLINGLY COME TO GOD...
and Believe and Accept Jesus as His Saviour....
And THEN God does the rest...
by making man a brand new creation in Christ...by making his spirit born again
!!
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MorningSong
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| Topic: Basic laws of this realtiy.... |
Wed 10/29/08 04:22 PM |
In AA Allens' early meetings( Evangelist RW Shambach told of this, and saw it with is own eyes)...
there was a child born with no eyes.....just eye sockets.....
and God performed a creative miracle...
right before the whole congregation....
The child not only recieved a pair of beautiful new eyes for the first time....
but the child's limbs which were all twisted before....
became normal.
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MorningSong
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| Topic: doesn't "Jesus is God" goes against God's law |
Wed 10/29/08 03:25 PM |
Sweet Funches...
the spirit and the soul of man are not the same....
When man believes and accepts Jesus Christ as His Personal Saviour and Lord,the spirit of man is the ONLY part of man that becomes BORN AGAIN...not the soul of man .
The soul of man is the part of man that consists of the Mind, will emotions, thoughts, affections, feelings...
and are the part of man (after becoming born again), that man still has to put under subjection to the Holy Spirit ...on a daily basis....as well as RENEW with the WORD OF GOD.
Meaning.... the same ole stinkng thinking can be going on in a born again christian, UNTIL he RENEWS his mind with the Word of God(and that is man's job.. not God's job to do...God does the SAVING and gives man a brand spanking NEW BORN AGAIN SPIRIT......but man still has to do the RENEWING of his MIND).
That's what it means to put on the Mind of Christ.
So....the spirit of man is the only part of man that becomes BORN AGAIN.
The flesh ALSO ....still needs to be put under subjection to the Holy Spirit.... and as man grows in the Word , He WILL put his flesh under the spirit also........along with RENEWING his mind DAILY with the Word of God....IF he wants to GROW, that is.
Some christians don't grow up, and remain stunted babes....cause they refuse to EAT their daily bread(Word).
Meaning.....they're saved....but their spirit man is STUNTED....
almost shriveled up..cause they don't renew thier minds with God's Word.
Meaning..that is why you see so many born again christians ... still acting lke the World..cause they have done little or nothing to RENEW their MINDS with the Word of God on a DAILY basis.
Gotta run Precious..Be Blessed Now....
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MorningSong
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| Topic: doesn't "Jesus is God" goes against God's law |
Wed 10/29/08 01:44 PM |
Funches wrote and I quote :
"Bushidobillyclub" before Jesus came there was no question who was God it was the one in the old testament ...Yahweh ...Jesus was use to bring about Pantheism..this would be used to dismiss the old testament and it's God Yahweh and to proclaim Jesus as God bringing no religion but only the teaching of ...."
FUNCHES!!!!!!
JESUS WAS WITH THE FATHER.....
FROM THE VERY FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD!!
JESUS IS.... THE WORD!!!
JESUS IS... I AM!!!!
JESUS (THE WORD) SPOKE THE VERY WORLDS INTO EXISTENCE!!!
JESUS (WORD) WAS RIGHT THERE ....WITH THE FATHER GOD......RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING .... WHEN GOD ALSO SAID , "LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE!!"
THE "US" MENTIONED THERE IS ...
GOD THE FATHER ,
GOD THE WORD, (JESUS WAS KNOWN AS THE THE WORD IN THE BEGINNNG, BEFORE HE CAME IN THE FLESH) ,
GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT !!!
ALL THREE ...YET... ONE.. GOD.... WERE RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING...
FROM THE VERY FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD!!!
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