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Fri 05/02/08 01:18 AM |
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that is cool
i did not really think it was
yer to classy for that kind of proposition (i think)
Im grown and that doesnt intail anything about class but you got me all flustered with this political talk..........anyways im tired and im off to bed........later |
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Fri 05/02/08 01:07 AM |
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me to but do not tell her ok
You need a hug or no actually I think you just need sex in your life...........
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Tanzkity
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Fri 05/02/08 12:58 AM |
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statement with no verification is worthless do they not teach this at berkly
I have just giving you numerous amount of statements that will be quoted by me in the future but they wont be in an internet site............you have nothing but a site you go by do you even know what your constitution is about do you know who your founding fathers are..........i do the girl who immigrated to this country........oh i know you are going to go get it at an site...........come on man do better you have all the resources yet the immigrants are proving why we are here we know how to benefit and take education not for granted can you say the same man..........
i took the test i got a 95 only because we elected a new senator and i took it right after the election
so do not even go there
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a statement without verification is worthless
This comes from a woman who has a 4.0 grade point average and i am well aware of what I am talking about and quite proficient in the rhetoric that you have been trying to win over people with..........take it as you may and understand that you arent the only individual with a view point and try to see others and respect their way of thinking..........America was founded on the fact that people can have different view points and respect that I am accepting your no matter if its wrong or right but you dont try to use a superiority complex on others and expect good feedback........lesson learned..........or if you are that close minded then I hope that you can be helped through a good therapist ..........later
4.0 that is pretty good
seems like you would realize that you will not convince an intelligent person just by saying you say so (and tooting your own horn in the process)
like i said a statement without verification is useless
And what are you getting at I wasnt the one who challenged people to a debate on facts you did and your basis was composed of sites on the internet that you couldnt verify........im lost am I the one to question or yourself? |
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Fri 05/02/08 12:51 AM |
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statement with no verification is worthless do they not teach this at berkly
I have just giving you numerous amount of statements that will be quoted by me in the future but they wont be in an internet site............you have nothing but a site you go by do you even know what your constitution is about do you know who your founding fathers are..........i do the girl who immigrated to this country........oh i know you are going to go get it at an site...........come on man do better you have all the resources yet the immigrants are proving why we are here we know how to benefit and take education not for granted can you say the same man..........
i took the test i got a 95 only because we elected a new senator and i took it right after the election
so do not even go there
like i said
a statement without verification is worthless
This comes from a woman who has a 4.0 grade point average and i am well aware of what I am talking about and quite proficient in the rhetoric that you have been trying to win over people with..........take it as you may and understand that you arent the only individual with a view point and try to see others and respect their way of thinking..........America was founded on the fact that people can have different view points and respect that I am accepting your no matter if its wrong or right but you dont try to use a superiority complex on others and expect good feedback........lesson learned..........or if you are that close minded then I hope that you can be helped through a good therapist ..........later |
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Tanzkity
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Fri 05/02/08 12:33 AM |
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statement with no verification is worthless do they not teach this at berkly
I have just giving you numerous amount of statements that will be quoted by me in the future but they wont be in an internet site............you have nothing but a site you go by do you even know what your constitution is about do you know who your founding fathers are..........i do the girl who immigrated to this country........oh i know you are going to go get it at an site...........come on man do better you have all the resources yet the immigrants are proving why we are here we know how to benefit and take education not for granted can you say the same man.......... |
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Fri 05/02/08 12:25 AM |
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I think its safe to say none but its insane to think that justifies the ends to the means............I dont condone any country that has ruled another but I think its in the genetic makeup of human beings to show each other that one is better than the other........is that justifiable no and that shouldnt let countries go scott free from their injustices..........later
well how long should those injustices be thrown up
and if all are quilty who is to be the applicator of any retribution
and if retribution is to be made then those it is made to need to make it to another if all are guilty
so would it not be better to move on rather than keep throwing salt in the eye of the ancestors ot those that were involved
after all they were not the perpetrator of the wrong doing
to blame the ancestor means that all are guilty of some major crime of some kind
You cant move on when the same injustices are being done now........unless we learn from them and try as human beings to acknowledge the wrongs and be able to show apathy to others we are going to be running from our own tails forever....why is that you want to forsake the people from the past when the people now havent changed.........its only time to move on when we recognize our faults and we go forward and make real life changes instead of pointing fingers and blaming the next its just a scapegoat.......i want to move past the blame and give out concrete solutions instead of looking in the past isnt that what you wanted for us to do ,so that we can refute your claim............
those that keep accusing those that are not responsible are the ones pointing the finger
**You cant move on when the same injustices are being done now.**
**its only time to move on when we recognize our faults and we go forward and make real life changes instead of pointing fingers and blaming the next its just a scapegoat......**
**its just a scapegoat......**is what blaming the present generation for the sins of the past
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well i think you need to study your history a little more
i do not know of any expanding of the united states lately
what injustice do you speak
plz start posting research for your accusations
no disrespect intended
By the way my major is Political Science and International Diplomacy so i well aware of wht im talking about I think you need to start giving your fellow JSH people the benefit of the doubt........I have learned a lot from others tonight but I haven really learned nothing from the way you decided to strategize your topic........i think for someone who didnt know you I got defensive because I am a person of color and im sick and tired of the pointing fingers............but also I thought that you needed to hear from someone who isnt so stereotypical because most people would assume that i am African American.........I want people to be aware of what the hell they say because to tell you the truth you dont know who you will be talkin to.........i do know im an African woman highly educated and I hate when people use ridiculous evidence rather than hard evidence to state their facts and then on the aspect of history how can you talk about anything without history.........if someone was to ask you how was last three years of you birthday party you would have to talk about history..........history is important so that we can learn the past and learn what to fix in that past and be better people, a person who cant look at that past is a coward and uneducated because there is no way to go forward without knowing the past.............take care........peace people |
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Fri 05/02/08 12:17 AM |
| Listen the next time you fly off the handle all Im trying to do is advising you to read a book instead of believing everything on the internet................I can talk to someone with knowledge instead of throwing me sites and ridiculous statistics......... |
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Tanzkity
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Fri 05/02/08 12:13 AM |
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well what country does not have a label illegal alien
Please tell me a country other than America uses those terms.........in European countries they are called Guests or Guest Workers
those are the legal ones
the united states has those as well
They do but they dont mean the samething...........look instead of jumping to conclusions I would love for everyone to go to the site uscis.gov and look at all what it takes to be legal and the money that it takes to stay in this country.......my father although he had the state pay for his immigration services he still had to shell out 10,000 for fees and it took 5 years to do what he had to do........its so easy to talk when you are here well im telling you from the other side.........you have no idea........and its disrespectful for you to tell people that they arent doing wht they need to do when its a long process coming for everyone
Your father did things the right way & why should others be allowed to take shortcuts? I bet he is very proud of what he accomplished & has every right to be!
Please I want to know what is the right way if we are talking about that then the I think the illegals have the right to be here since it was their state to beging with especially New Mexico, Texas, and Cali........man are we so caught up im me we really forget the rights of others or now we want to hold this so called almighty thing about whats right and wrong and what legal and not when this country not at one millisecond did that ..............its trully hypocritical...........where are your ancestors from and if you can say they trully originated in america then I can give you the benefit of the doubt about illegal immigration...... |
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Tanzkity
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Fri 05/02/08 12:06 AM |
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I think its safe to say none but its insane to think that justifies the ends to the means............I dont condone any country that has ruled another but I think its in the genetic makeup of human beings to show each other that one is better than the other........is that justifiable no and that shouldnt let countries go scott free from their injustices..........later
well how long should those injustices be thrown up
and if all are quilty who is to be the applicator of any retribution
and if retribution is to be made then those it is made to need to make it to another if all are guilty
so would it not be better to move on rather than keep throwing salt in the eye of the ancestors ot those that were involved
after all they were not the perpetrator of the wrong doing
to blame the ancestor means that all are guilty of some major crime of some kind
You cant move on when the same injustices are being done now........unless we learn from them and try as human beings to acknowledge the wrongs and be able to show apathy to others we are going to be running from our own tails forever....why is that you want to forsake the people from the past when the people now havent changed.........its only time to move on when we recognize our faults and we go forward and make real life changes instead of pointing fingers and blaming the next its just a scapegoat.......i want to move past the blame and give out concrete solutions instead of looking in the past isnt that what you wanted for us to do ,so that we can refute your claim............
those that keep accusing those that are not responsible are the ones pointing the finger
**You cant move on when the same injustices are being done now.**
**its only time to move on when we recognize our faults and we go forward and make real life changes instead of pointing fingers and blaming the next its just a scapegoat......**
**its just a scapegoat......**is what blaming the present generation for the sins of the past
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well i think you need to study your history a little more
i do not know of any expanding of the united states lately
what injustice do you speak
plz start posting research for your accusations
no disrespect intended
Look I think you seem to mistaken me as Stupid which you are clear and well aware of im not.........I dont need a website to give me knowledge and by the way any true intellectual knows that you post your theories there you dont look for facts . But im starting to undestand you much better you havent been trully challenged and I can tell because you actually think that you make sense and you are intellectual........isnt it amazing that I am what you never intended and I love that......i am telling you this because the next time that we have to spar you better trully have some substantial evidence not something you got from wikepidia.........hon this is what i do are you sure you want to challenge a mind like mine........i dare you but I know always the outcome |
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Tanzkity
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Thu 05/01/08 11:58 PM |
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Please tell me a country other than America uses those terms.........in European countries they are called Guests or Guest Workers
CACHAN, France -- For dozens of illegal immigrant families, a gymnasium outside Paris has become a temporary home. They sleep shoulder-to-shoulder, their dingy mattresses piled high with necessities and small treasures: cooking pans, diapers, stuffed animals.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/31/AR2006083101076.html
175 Million people currently reside in a country other than where they were born, double the number since 1975.
½ a million illegal immigrants who enter Europe each year, one-fourth come via Spain.
The main entry point to Spain is the strait of Gibraltar, where the rough waters, claim the lives of many would-be asylum seekers.
http://www.ecop.info/english/e-sap-net-35.htm
is france and spain enough if not google it
[/quote You know what you can come up with statistics up to your you know what but that doesnt justify unfairness and I know most Europeans arent as harsh about their terms as Americans........you want to use words to justify things but you have to also get evidence from people and you are just all about quotes because really you havent been anywhere........i have and I have a daughter who is Russian and I have the great pleasure of visiting numerous amount of European countries and they dont have the same conotations as they have in America.........I can link my heritage up to 8 generations ago can you or do you have to look that up on the internet............  |
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Tanzkity
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Thu 05/01/08 11:48 PM |
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well what country does not have a label illegal alien
Please tell me a country other than America uses those terms.........in European countries they are called Guests or Guest Workers
those are the legal ones
the united states has those as well
They do but they dont mean the samething...........look instead of jumping to conclusions I would love for everyone to go to the site uscis.gov and look at all what it takes to be legal and the money that it takes to stay in this country.......my father although he had the state pay for his immigration services he still had to shell out 10,000 for fees and it took 5 years to do what he had to do........its so easy to talk when you are here well im telling you from the other side.........you have no idea........and its disrespectful for you to tell people that they arent doing wht they need to do when its a long process coming for everyone |
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Tanzkity
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Thu 05/01/08 11:40 PM |
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I think its safe to say none but its insane to think that justifies the ends to the means............I dont condone any country that has ruled another but I think its in the genetic makeup of human beings to show each other that one is better than the other........is that justifiable no and that shouldnt let countries go scott free from their injustices..........later
well how long should those injustices be thrown up
and if all are quilty who is to be the applicator of any retribution
and if retribution is to be made then those it is made to need to make it to another if all are guilty
so would it not be better to move on rather than keep throwing salt in the eye of the ancestors ot those that were involved
after all they were not the perpetrator of the wrong doing
to blame the ancestor means that all are guilty of some major crime of some kind
You cant move on when the same injustices are being done now........unless we learn from them and try as human beings to acknowledge the wrongs and be able to show apathy to others we are going to be running from our own tails forever....why is that you want to forsake the people from the past when the people now havent changed.........its only time to move on when we recognize our faults and we go forward and make real life changes instead of pointing fingers and blaming the next its just a scapegoat.......i want to move past the blame and give out concrete solutions instead of looking in the past isnt that what you wanted for us to do ,so that we can refute your claim............ |
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Thu 05/01/08 11:31 PM |
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Please tell me a country other than America uses those terms.........in European countries they are called Guests or Guest Workers |
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Tanzkity
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Thu 05/01/08 11:29 PM |
| No my degree isnt from Harvard( which I love that school) but its from Berkeley but I have to say that it isnt so blanket. I can predict that you dont pick fruits or any type of agriculture that you buy at the market everyday.......i predict you dont work at mc donalds..........i predict that you dont work in a back of a restraunt that you visit when you go to a dat........i predict that you dont mow your own lawn or clean your own pool and if you want a cheat oil change or a tune up you dont go to your neighborhood dealership and get one...............hon its apparent no matter what you say most Americans arent looking for these jobs because they have the population that does them........and by the way when you want cheap labor when you need to move I predict that you dont call a mover you got to homedepot and get cheap labor.........Please............... |
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Tanzkity
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Thu 05/01/08 11:22 PM |
Your right Japan has strick laws on everything and if you are aware also Japan does not let anyone of any country become a citizen unless you have a good excuse like marriage or such.....but even then its difficult and I have to say they try to do that to keep their country at a constant frame of thinking and the country is an island and how many people can it let in and keep anyway.......its too dense.........this also goes for Australia (which half of the country is desert and unhabitable) which is what countries go by the geographical impact and unfortunately for America it has a good climate and it has a huge land mass that people can inhabit and that is why its a desirable thing next to its political views..........
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Thu 05/01/08 11:12 PM |
| I think its safe to say none but its insane to think that justifies the ends to the means............I dont condone any country that has ruled another but I think its in the genetic makeup of human beings to show each other that one is better than the other........is that justifiable no and that shouldnt let countries go scott free from their injustices..........later |
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Thu 05/01/08 10:52 PM |
| What part didnt you understand I think I have been very clear........I think that you forget that America has exploited people since it conception and I am showing you how it has manipulated innocent people and has taken their land.........Its that simple and yes people come here with student visas but when Americans especially elite ones find that they are letting some of these students go home and they may be gifted then they offer them a deal and what happens is that it strips the native country of the educated and intelligent people it needs to progress.......am I not clear I can keep breaking it down for you |
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