2468great
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| Mon 10/27/08 03:05 PM |
In my last post someone inferred that Mc Cain would be a better president cause he is more like a regular joe.
My question is, when did we as americans decide that we would settle for regular, ordinary, average or common people to lead us? Do we really want that in a time of crisis? Is regular joe code for something else? Where our founding fathers regular joes?
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pingpong
Joined Fri 09/12/08
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| Mon 10/27/08 03:20 PM |
I just think it's funny how McCain, who's the son of an army admiral and married into being millionaire, is the regular joe, whereas Obama, who was raised by a single mom and grandparents who at one point had to be on food stamps, went to school with scholarships and loans, and is a self made millionaire is less of a regular joe.
Anyway, there's nothing wrong with wanting to identify your candidate, but I agree that there's a huge problem with anti-intellectualism. I want a smart president, sorry. I mean, I don't want my president to be an elitist, but I do want him to be elite.
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mnhiker
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| Mon 10/27/08 10:31 PM |
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In my last post someone inferred that Mc Cain would be a better president cause he is more like a regular joe.
My question is, when did we as americans decide that we would settle for regular, ordinary, average or common people to lead us? Do we really want that in a time of crisis? Is regular joe code for something else? Where our founding fathers regular joes?
There are regular joes and there are sloppy joes.
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warmachine
Joined Tue 04/08/08
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| Mon 10/27/08 11:39 PM |
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When is it that we are going to stop with the high school litmus test as far as President goes and start voting for those who are actually going to be the best at the job?
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2468great
Joined Mon 10/27/08
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| Tue 10/28/08 06:17 AM |
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I remember people saying that they voted for Bush because he was someone they could have a beer with.
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enderra
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| Tue 10/28/08 06:45 AM |
I am surprised that the Mc Cain lovers haven't argued this point.
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adj4u
Joined Sun 04/08/07
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| Tue 10/28/08 06:56 AM |
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In my last post someone inferred that Mc Cain would be a better president cause he is more like a regular joe.
My question is, when did we as americans decide that we would settle for regular, ordinary, average or common people to lead us? Do we really want that in a time of crisis? Is regular joe code for something else? Where our founding fathers regular joes?
if you want a different out come
you must put different input
no matter what you are speaking of
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enderra
Joined Tue 04/15/08
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| Tue 10/28/08 07:05 AM |
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In my last post someone inferred that Mc Cain would be a better president cause he is more like a regular joe.
My question is, when did we as americans decide that we would settle for regular, ordinary, average or common people to lead us? Do we really want that in a time of crisis? Is regular joe code for something else? Where our founding fathers regular joes?
if you want a different out come
you must put different input
no matter what you are speaking of
WOW, can you be any vaguer?
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adj4u
Joined Sun 04/08/07
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| Tue 10/28/08 07:19 AM |
what is vague
if you do not want the same things to happen
do not do the same things that lead to what is happening
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if you do not want spam
stop giving out email address to unknown sites
is that easy enough correlation
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oh yeah i forgot the name of the thread
thats it
yep
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symbelmyne
Joined Mon 01/14/08
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| Tue 10/28/08 07:29 AM |
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In my last post someone inferred that Mc Cain would be a better president cause he is more like a regular joe.
My question is, when did we as americans decide that we would settle for regular, ordinary, average or common people to lead us? Do we really want that in a time of crisis? Is regular joe code for something else? Where our founding fathers regular joes?
There are regular joes and there are sloppy joes.
man..I looooove sloppy joes...yum!
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enderra
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s1owhand
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| Tue 10/28/08 07:45 AM |
McCain and Obama are both intelligent and capable.
McCain has however demonstrated a great deal more
capability over the years as a leader, statesman,
legislator and independent.
Obama maybe great or maybe a disaster. If he gets
elected let's hope it isn't another disaster like
the other recent inexperienced presidents we have
elected, namely George W. Bush and Jimmy Carter.
Unfortunately McCain has sold out during this
campaign to the far right wing of his party instead
of reaching out to the independents. Likewise, Obama
has cow-towed to the far left elements in his party
too and he managed to select the one running mate whose
gaffes can be actually compared with Palin's. So yeah,
we are pretty much stuck either way. (bows head)
Let us pray.
 
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enderra
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| Tue 10/28/08 07:51 AM |
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I don't care how experienced you are if you keep making the same mistakes and trying to maintain the status quo. I also believe that he has something to prove in terms of having America come out as the "Victor". That is the scariest thing about him to me. War is a last resort and not something to cling to to prove a point.
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adj4u
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| Tue 10/28/08 07:56 AM |
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I don't care how experienced you are if you keep making the same mistakes and trying to maintain the status quo. I also believe that he has something to prove in terms of having America come out as the "Victor". That is the scariest thing about him to me. War is a last resort and not something to cling to to prove a point.
"""I don't care how experienced you are if you keep making the same mistakes"""
i thought you said you did not know what i said
if you want differnt output (differnt reaction)
then change the input (quit making same mistakes[choices])
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oldsage
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| Tue 10/28/08 08:01 AM |
There is a need to allow different opinions & not argue in the threads.
respect others, as you want to be respected.
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adj4u
Joined Sun 04/08/07
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| Tue 10/28/08 08:04 AM |
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There is a need to allow different opinions & not argue in the threads.
respect others, as you want to be respected.
i see no arguing and disrespect here
there is an explanation of posts
there is no issue unless one is made of nothing
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s1owhand
Joined Fri 05/18/07
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| Tue 10/28/08 08:07 AM |
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I don't care how experienced you are if you keep making the same mistakes and trying to maintain the status quo. I also believe that he has something to prove in terms of having America come out as the "Victor". That is the scariest thing about him to me. War is a last resort and not something to cling to to prove a point.
one of the scariest things about Obama is that he does
not seem to appreciate how important it is to help
moderates prevail in the middle east.
in battle, victory is ummmm "preferable" for a variety
of reasons.
well - we shall see.
all respectfully though! i do hope that whoever gets
elected in fact does recognize the need for moderation.
the urgent need to represent all americans and the
real importance of walking the walk while reaching
across the aisle.
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enderra
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| Tue 10/28/08 08:08 AM |
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I would prefer if you no longer address me personally in this thread, if you want to discuss it you can e-mail me otherwise drop it and move on.
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adj4u
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| Tue 10/28/08 08:08 AM |
funny how that works
kinda like i can say what i want but you are not permitted to respond
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Edited by adj4u on Tue 10/28/08 08:12 AM
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quiet_2008
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| Tue 10/28/08 08:33 AM |
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sorry,
but that all made me laugh
kinda like a abbott and costello thing
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